Charlie Sykes is one of the most well-known Never Trump conservatives. Roger and Charlie discuss whether Charlie considers himself a Republican anymore; whether the conservative movement can survive Trump; the issues Democrats should run on in 2020 to persuade moderate voters; Wisconsin as the key swing state and more. 

Roger & Jane discuss how she organized rural conservatives in Nebraska to oppose the Keystone Pipeline (Rolling Stone magazine called her “The Keystone Killer”.) They also discuss how Democrats can persuade rural voters; her rise from progressiver organizer to Nebraska Democratic Party Chair; whether Dems can win in Nebraska in 2020 and more.

Bill and Roger discuss key things liberals might find surprising: that virtually everything Obama signed into law got Republican votes; the NRA donating to politicians is not the real source of their power; that the Democrats may be making a political mistake pursuing single payer healthcare, and more.